The Mortar Bombs of Division

Podcast host, Sam Stafford had planned more of a ramble-type chat with Pete Swift, Jonathan Easton and Claire Petricca-Riding, but, reflective of the news that has dominated the agenda of late, their conversation, recorded online, focuses on planning for the environment and specifically nutrient neutrality and net zero.

They talk less about the nuts and bolts, practical implications of the respective recent announcements in these areas and more about the political narrative.

Thanks largely to Pete, the conversation gets quite philosophical at times and Sam hopes that it is all the more interesting for that.

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